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tabarayi aap batao khoni matim ko kis ne jayez kaha hai koi mausum ka qol hai ? aur haan Alliun waliullah azan main mustahib hai aur namaz main nahin parhna chahiye. Ayat ulaah khamni is great leader we will be lucky if we reach the destination as he.
As I know brother belongs to that particular sect who consider Fatwa of Mujthahids superior than traditions of Masumeen (a.s.) so I have submitted this:
Al-Imam al-Sheikh Abdul Kareem al-Ha’ery The Founder of the current Hawzah in the holy city of Qum.“The hitting of swords on the heads (causing bleeding) is alright (allowed) provided there is no harm to the person doing this. Furthermore no one has the right to prohibit this (hitting the head with sword). In fact all kinds of TA’ZIAH – mourning – for SEYYED AL-SHUHADA’ – Imam Hussain – may our souls be sacrificed for him, are MUSTAHAB – desirable deeds.â€
The above Fatwa by al-Imam al-Sheikh Abdul Kareem al-Ha’ery was endorsed and signed by the following eminent Maraje’:
*Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Sheikh Muhammad al-Araki,
*Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid Muhammad Ridha al-Gulpaygani,
* Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid Shahab-el-Deen al-Mar’ashi al-Najafi,
* Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid Hassan al-Tabataba’e al-Qummi,
* Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid Muhammad al-Waheedi,
* Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Mirza Jawaad al-Tabrizi,
* Ayatollah al-Udhma al-Seyyid Muhammad Saadiq al-Rouhani,
* Ayatollah al-Udhma Muhammad Mahdi al-Lankaroudi,
Ab aap ke paas do hi rastey bach jaathey hain, ya to in mujthahedeen ko ghalath kahiye ya phir aap ke moujooda 14vey imam khamnai aur 13vey imam qumaini ko ghalath kahiye aur un tamaam ko bhi jo is amal ke qayel nahi hain.
Phir meiney khareeb 7 mujthahedeen ke hawaley diye (kitab ka naam, taleef wa tasneef karda ka naam, safa No. ke saath) jahan mujthahedeen-e-Ikraam shahadath-e-salasa ko azaan, aqama aur thashahood ka hissa maantey they. Is per bhai ali-hadi5 ne mujhey yeh message bhijaya:
Alihadi5 wrote:
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</td> <td style="font-size: 9pt; replaced: 80%;" title="color"> <table style="replaced: 100%;"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="font-size: 9pt; replaced: 20%; text-align: right;" title="color">FROM:</td> <td style="replaced: 80%;" title="color"> Alihadi5</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="font-size: 9pt; replaced: 20%; text-align: right;" title="color">DATE:</td> <td style="font-size: 9pt; replaced: 80%;" title="color">07/30/2009</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </td> </tr> </tbody></table>I know u r against these maraje. but atleast read them. wat r they saying. ........................................................................................................ impermissable/prohibited etc etc. Hence it is proved that we find no legal status of shedding blood deliberately and make a practice of it every year rather then we should try to find out the ways which Ahlul Bayt (a.s.) has done, don't forget after Imam Hussain (AS), we have the history of eight (8) Imams, its not less. Why sticks on the act of Owais-e-Qarani only hence try to prove baseless thing?
Muhabbat ka khub mafhoom bayyan kia aap ne. Maan jab apne bachay ko sardi main geela ho jaati hai to woh apne bachy ko khushk karti hai aur haet deti hai.
na k woh khud sardi main geeli ho kar khari ho jati hai.
Be shak mazloom hussain As aur un k saatheon per beshummaar zulm howay.
her tarah ka hathyaar use howay. to kia hum saaray woh hathyar apne ooper use karain. ya un asbaab ka tadaarik karen ya un assolon ko apnae jis k liye hussain jaisi shakhsiat qurban ho jati hai.
Hum sirf is baat per stuck ho gae hain k mohabbat ka izhar zanjeer zani or deeger harmful (not necesserily only physically but also these r harm ful to our relegious) rassom se hosakta hai.
Bhai itni bari qurbani sirf in rasoomat k liye nahin di gai. sirf is liye nahin k yeh aik event ban jae.
Samjho is qurbaani ko aur tayyar karo apne aap ko hussain ki us sada k liye jo karbo bala main jab sab saathi shaheed ho gae to hussain As hal min naasir yansur na ki sada hamaray liye buland karte hain.
Waise to is forum ko join kiye hoye 2-3 maheene hogaye magar kuch masrofiat ki waja se waqt na mil saka ke ap sub ko join ker sako. Aj itefaqun is topic ko dekha to herut hoi ke ab bhi yeh masla chal raha ha.
Bhai jaha tak ma samjh saka ho yaha 2 masail zer-e-behis aye hain.
1. Tashahud ma Wilayat-e-Ameer-ul-Momineen
2. Khoni matam (qamazani, zanjeer zani, etc)
Answer1:
Bhai yeh wilayat koi masla nahi. "MASLA" wo hota hai jis ma 2 logo ki 2 ideology ya Raye ho. Bhai yaha ATA'AT ka hukum aya ha. ATA'AT ke meaning ha sunna or qabool kerna bila dil ma shak laye. Or quran saaf lafzo ma furma raha ha:
"Ae Emaan lanay walo! Ata'at karo allah ki or us ke RASOOL ki or AULO'UL AMAR ki"
Ab ager tafseer pochni hai to quran ki wariso se pocho. Imam Jafir Sadiq se kisi ne sawal kiya "Mola yeh aulo'ul amar koun hain?" Mola ne furmaya "HUM AIMA-E-HAQ"
To bhai pata yeh chala ke IMAM ki ATA'AT kerna hai apni ideology paish nahi kerni chahiye.
Ab IMAM JAFFER SADIQ ne furmaya:
"Jaise he tum Allah ki touheed ki or Rasool ki risalat ki shahadat do tum pe wajib ha tum MOLA AMEER-ul-MOMINEEN ki wilayat ki shahadat do"
Bhai is QOUL-E-MASOOM ki roshni ma ab jaha bhi allah ki touheed or rasool ki risalat ki gawahi do to wajib ha ALI ki wilayat ki shahadat do. Chahay namaz ho azan ho tashahud ho. Kyn ke is hadees ma na waqt ka zikr ha na moqay ka. Yeh Hadees hur haal ma aplicable ha. Ab apni ideology na do bus ATA'At karo MASOOM ki.
Or sorry to say magar yeh socho ke QOUL-E-MASOOM ke khilaf fatwa de ya ijtehad karay us ka anjam kea hoga or us ka muqam kea hoga.
Yaha topic taqleed pe behis kerna nahi werna bohat si batain hain kerne ke liye.
Answer 2:
Ab jaha tak khoni matam ka sawal ha to bhai yeh ishq ka taqaza ha jis ko ishq na ho na karay. Mujhe bohat afsos hua tha jub ma multan ma roz-e-ashora masaib parhne ke baad zanjeer zani kerne khara hua to log herut se mujhe dekh rahay thay. Afsos ha ke ulema ne apni aisi tasveer paish ki ha ke ab ager koi allama matam kerne khara hota hai to log herut ma mubtila hojatay hain.
Jahan tak fatwe ka sawal hai to ma apne dono bhaiyo se aik sawal kerna chahta ho ke bhai matam pe fatwa le kyon rahay ho? Or matam pe fatwa dene ka haq kis ne ko de dia? Bhai tabarayi ap ne apni daleel paish kerne ke liye fatwa kyon dia kisi ka bhi?
shayad mere yeh sawalat parh ke kuch logo ka dil dukhay magar ma jo daleel dene ja raha ho us ke baad momineen ke dil khush hojaye ge inshallah
"Jub shaam se rihai ka waqt aya to Yazeed Lanati ne Imam Sajjad ko talab kia or poch AE ALI IBN HUSSAIN! TUM APNE BABA KI AZA KAHAN KERNA CHAHO GE?
To imam ne jawab dia MERE BABA KI AZA KAHA HOGI KAISE HOGI KUB HOGI YEH BATANE KA HAQ SIRF MERI PHUPI KA HA JIS KE SAMNE US KA BHAI PYASA ZIBAH KER DIA GAYA YA PHIR MERI DADI ZAHRA J.J KA HAQ HA JIS NE MAQTAL KO APNE BALO SE SAAF KIA MERA KOI HAQ NAHI"
ab mera sawal yeh hai ke jub yeh kalaam MOLA SAJJAD furma rahay thay us waqt un ki designation kea thi. IMAM-E-WAQT HUJJAT-E-KHUDA. Right?
To jub imam ne furma dia ke ma imam-e-waqt hote hoye azadari ke masle pe guftugo nahi ker sakta bulke yeh sirf meri phupo ya dadi ka haq hai to kisi molvi ko kis ne haq de dia fatwe dene ka?
Bhai molvi kitna bara alim kyn na ho MOLA se bara to nahi ha na.
Ab ager koi shia is ke baad bhi MOLA ko chor ker MOLVI se fatwa lene gaya to wo janay or HUSSAIN KI MAA J.J janay
Inshallah next post ma batao ga ke matam kis kis ne kiya or kaise kiya.
Mola sub ko apni hifz-o-amaan ma rakhain.
Mola Waris
Bhai itni bari qurbani sirf in rasoomat k liye nahin di gai. sirf is liye nahin k yeh aik event ban jae.
Bhai aik nabi ka beta nabi jis ne abhi koi khaas qurbani nahi di wo buch gaya aik dunbay ya goosfund ke badle to ap 14000 saal se bakre, gaye, bail, unnt, bakri, maindha, dunba pata nahi kea kea kaat rahay ho or Akhri Nabi ke Betay ka matam kerne ke liye itne tahafuzat? Yeh dohra mayar kyn?
Bhai Ibrahim Nabi ka beta to buch gaya tha magar yaha to Mohammed ka Beta qatal ker dia gaya apni Aal Aulad or Dosto ke saath?
Kea hogia hai ap logo ko? Ap kehte ho itni bari qurbani nahi de sakte. Kash imam hussain ne yehi baat keh di hoti ke ITNI BARI QURBANI nahi de sakta to ap ko pata lagta jub yazeed ka islam ap le ker chal rahay hotay. Jis ma sharab bhi halal thi or maa behno se nikah bhi jaiz tha.
Mola janay yeh ummat or qoum kub bedaar hogi?
Ap aik molvi ko munwane ke liye SYEDA ke betay ka matam chor rahay ho?
Yeh kea mazhub ka mayar ha ke hussain ki behen ka dil dukhta ha to dukhay magar molvi ki baat mano? Bhai yeh sub ap ko kis ne keh dia?
Or bhai ap Owais Qurni ke nazriye ko stuck hona keh rahay ho na to acha ha hum isi pe stuck rahay kum se kum KHAIR-US-SAHABA ka laqub to paya unho ne is ishq ke badle.
Aao ma ap ko batao ke baqi imam ne kea kiya.
Aik hoti hai hadees-e-qouli aik hoti hai hadees-e-faili
Hadees-e-Qouli:
Rasool ya Imam ne yeh amal khud suranjam dia ya hukum furmaya
Hadees-e-Faili:
Rasool ya Imam ke samne aik kaam hua or ap ne nahi roka ya roka
Ab ao hadees ki taraf
"Jub ahlaybait rihai pa ker karbala pohnche to waha bani asad un ke istibal ke liye kharay thay. Yeh wo 380 bani asad ke log thay jinhe imam ki nusrat se rok dia gaya tha. Jub ahlaybait ne apna pursa ker liya to BANI ASAD ke logo ne talwar se apne sur, kamar, bazo or seene pe matam kiya. Imam Sajjad ne pocha yeh kea ker rahay ho? Bani asad ke logo ne kaha mola hum ap ke baba ki nusrat ko to na asakay ab allah janay ap ke baba ko kaha koun sa zakhm laga hum ap ke baba ki yaad ma zakhm laga rahay hain shayad kahi aik zakhm humain bhi wo lag jaye. Imam Sajjad ne furmaya KHUDA TUMHE JAZA-E-KHAIR ATA KARAY JIS TARAH TUM NE MERE BABA KI YAAD KO TAZA KER DIA"
Ab batao mola ne roka ya jaza-e-khair ki dua di. Matam sunnat hogia na?
Quran ne kea kaha "JO MOHAMMED DE LE LO JIS SE ROKAY RUK JAO"
Rasool Allah ne kea kaha "HUMARA PEHLA BHI MOHAMMED AUSAT BHI MOHAMMED AKHIR BHI MOHAMMED HUM SUB KE SUB MOHAMMED"
To ke mola sajjad bhi apne waqt ke mohammed nahi? Jub aik mohammed ne de dia to phir dosre mohammed se mat pocho na.
Phir bhi ap ki tassali ke liye AJ KE MOHAMMED ka amal dikha deta hoon
Ab kis ko manna ha yeh faisla ap per ha
Mola sub ko raah-e-rast pe layen
Mola Waris
Mashallah wa Jazakallah be-shak ahl-e-ilm ki wazahath mazeed koi thishnagi baqi nahi rakhti. Subhanallah "allamma" Moula (a.s) aap ko is "haq" ki wakalath ki jaza-e-khair kaseer ata karega. Waisey to Ali-hadi5 bhai ke liye mein mazeed kuch kahoon is ki gunjayesh aap ne baqi nahi rakhi aur agar Mir Anees wa Dabeer ke baad bhi log agar marsiya na kehtey to mein bhi yahan kuch kehney ki jurrath nahi karta, wo log bhi apni janib se nusrath ke iradey se un marsiya goh shora ke baad bhi marsiya kaha isi tarha mein bhi yahan do eik baathey kehna chahata hoon sirf moula ki reza hasil karney ke liye, warna to aap ne mukammil jawab dediya hai.
Bhai Ali-hadi5 ka yeh kehna ke "ashqiya jin asla se zarb lagaye hum wo tamam asla se matham karey" mujhey yeh baath badi bachkana lagi hai kyun ke har asla ke istemal jasad-e-aqdas per zarb laganey ke liye istemaal kiya gaya tha, aur maqsad tha "zarb" lagana. Hum matamdar bhi jin ashiya se matham kartey hain wo hamey "zaqm" pahonchatey hain. Chahey "talvar" ho "Chaqchaqi"ho "blade" ho ya "zanjeer" ho. Ab mein aap ko eik waqiya shab-e-ashoor ka yaad dilana chahata hoo, is waqaye mein aap ko mukammil jawab miljaiga. Jab Imam-e-aali moqam (a.s) shama gul kiye aur phir roushan kiye to Shahzadi Zainab (s.a) ne bibi fizza se poochwaya tha ke "ab jo log baaqi bachey hain kya wo log subha ashoor tak rahengey ya unmesey bhi koi chala jaiga?" jaisey yeh kalmath as-haab wa ansaar ne suna sab ke sab zameen per "naizey" nazb kardiye aur apney galey nezon ki ani per rakh kar yeh payam bhijwaya ke humey subah ashoor tak ka bhi intezaar nahi hai aur hum isi waqt Imam (a.s.) per nisar honey ko tayyar hain. Jab yeh baath saani-e-zehra (s.a) ko maloom huwi to aapney inkey haq mein dua ki. Jab ke as-haab ke paas nezon se hatkar bhi to asla raha hoga. Phir wo muqtalif hathiyaar kyun nahi is amal ke liye istemaal kiye.
Qaas Tavajju ke liye: Bhai Ali-Hadi5 ne aik aur baath pesh ki thi unkey mujthahid ke fatwey mein ke "jis amal mein jaan jaaney ka andesha ho wo haram hai" bhai ali-hadi5 1400 baras se lekar fi-zamana thak aap ney dekha hoga ke jab koi Imam (a.s.) se khitab karta tha ya karta hai to pehla lafz kehta hai ke " ya ibn-e-rasoolallah (saws) mein aap per qurban" aur kisi imam (a.s.) ne yeh nahi kaha ke qurbani mein jaan chali jaathi hai lehaza yeh na kaho aur jis mein jaan ki halakath hai wo haram hai. Aur hamari maayen (alhamdolillah) humey kabhi ke imam (a.s.) per qurban kar chuki hain. Aur hum wo log hain jin ki illath nusrath-e-Imam (a.s.) hai. To ab yeh matam jis mein ba-qoul aap ke mujthahid ke jaan janey ka khatra ho hamarey liye apney qoul ko amali jaama pehnana hai nakey amali munafeqath. Aur eik baath kahi thi bhai Ali-Hadi5 ney ke Awais-e-khirni ne yeh amal sirf eik baar kiya tha to kya aap yeh bata saktey hain ke bibi hajera ne safa aur marva ke darmiyan kitney sau baras chakkar lagaye they?
Bhai hamaara her imaam Khoon k aansu rota hai jab bhi Hussain a.s ka zikr ho , yeh kia koi kam baat hai ?
kia khoon k aansu ronay se nuksaan nahi hota khoon, body se nikal jaata hai naa ?
Hum gonehgaar log hai humse khoon k aansu nahi nikalte , issiliye hum apnay haathon apna khoon baha te hai ,
QAM , MAATAM ZANJEERI yeh alag behas hai . jiski nisbat hai .
Hum ab bhi hamaare IMAM ko hee follow kar rahey hai .
SHAHZADI-E-QAUNAIN...HAMARE ANSOO RUMAL MEIN LE JAYEN KYUNKI ISKI NISBAT GHAME HUSSAIN SE HAIN, THO KYA WO HAMARA KHOON QUBOOL NAHI FARMAYENGI.JABKE ANSOO KE BANISBAT KHOON JYADA MARTABA RAKHTA HAI. MAIN TO KAHUNGA IN MASLO PE LOGON KO UNKE AQAAID AUR UNKE HAAL PAR CHHODR DEN.HAMARA IMAM ZINDA HAI WO DEKH BHI RAHEN HAIN AUR SUN BHI RAHE HAIN AUR APNE ZULFEQAAR KO DHAAR BHI KAR RAHE HAIN.
(KAISA TAMASKHAR HUA HAI ISLAAM KI TAQDEER KE SAATH,QATLE SHABBIR HUA NAARE TAKBEER KE SAATH)
